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Intro. You may have heard that some people disagree with my rodent information. You haven't? Heck, I'll publish some of their comments for your edification. I'm leaving out the ones with too many Anglo-Saxon expletives to edit. And I probably deleted some as time and a half goes by. Read them and make up your own mind. As usual, I went thru them to correct their spelling and grammar (although it is sooo tempting to publish them "as is"). Enjoy. LA Bethany, November 6, 2006
Well, some others have written. LA
Rosie, November 6, 2005
I do have to add that it amuses me that some people think their
homemade mixes are superior to anything commercially prepared.
LA
Valerie, April 19, 2006
Needless to say, you should
either take your page off the internet permanently OR take it
off and do some research BEFORE putting it back up!! Any new
pet owner could read this bullshit and take your advice and
end up with a dead pet thanks to you. Do you want that on your
conscience?
I guess having a boyfriend that owns a ball python makes you
an full-fledged ball python expert. I'll stop listening
to those knuckleheads that breed them locally. LA
Holly, November 6, 2005
'Treats' are a vital things for rats since they are omnivorous.
They should have a constant supply of fresh daily changed water
and lab blocks, with a daily supplementation of fresh fruits and
vegetables, grains and the OCCASIONAL bone, meat, egg or dog
biscuit.
Dog biscuits were listed as okay by the person that wrote this
article, but they didn't mention the side effects of an
omnivorous animal eating a diet too high in crude protein. It
can and will affect their health.
Your site should promote RESPONSIBLE breeding, and responsible
breeding is not keeping males and females together while females
have their babies. It is not using maximum amounts of females to
pop out the most babies. Do you understand how many horrible
people sell or give their babies to feeder stores once the
'glory' of breeding is passed?
And I can't even begin to wonder what possessed a captive rat to
eat her baby! Only rats in the wild normally do this to protect
themselves from predators. I bet that poor rat was feeling very
afraid when she did that, or is an exceedingly temperamental rat
that should not have been bred.
Speaking of breeding. where on your page does it say that people should not breed unless they know about disease and infection let alone GENETICS? Where are your links to vets for care? Where is your discussion of tumors? Why is there a hairless rat with babies, knowing full well most hairless are genetically prone to having problems with lactation?Guh. You need to hire someone with a better working knowledge of rat care to help you with your articles. Considering Pine is the WORST shaving you can put a rat on, I'm surprised cedar is only ever mentioned. That absolutely astounds me.
This site is very, very wrong and very misinformed. I will
offer you the resources of my own website, and I offer to
rewrite the pages concerning the rats so that people buying
rats can actually give them the care they require to be
healthy, happy and live the long lives that are said they can.
Please visit
www.bananarattery.com for information on proper bedding
choices, feeding, and water requirements. Those are least
should be mentioned. I hope you have a good ratty filled day
:)
Thank you. I nearly
always have a good ratty filled day -- about 50 of the furry
little guys on an average day. LA
Rebecca, April 13, 2006
1)
The comment "you may not want to pick up a pregnant rat by the
tail..."
you don't want to pick up any
Rat by the tail, especially once they reach adulthood. It can
de-glove their tail and trust me when I say that it's not a pretty
site and can be fatal to the rat. You may also want to remove the
photo of the pregnant rat being picked up by its tail!
2)
Pine is not recommended for Rats:
There is strong scientific
evidence that pine and cedar shavings are harmful to the health of
rodents. Both these softwood shavings give off aromatic
hydrocarbons (phenols) and acids that are toxic. The phenols,
which give the shavings their scent, are the reason that cedar
repels fleas and moths and why pine-oil is the major ingredient in
Pine-sol brand disinfectant. In the laboratory, autoclaved pine
and cedar shavings have been shown to inhibit the growth of
micro-organisms (Reference 1). When animals are exposed to
softwood shavings the aromatic hydrocarbons are absorbed through
the respiratory tract and enter the blood. The acids given off by
pine and cedar shavings are very damaging to the respiratory
tract. These acids can actually destroy cells that line the lungs
and trachea (2). This has significant implications for rats since
the most common diseases in pet rats are respiratory infections.
Many owners of pet rats have reported the improvement of
respiratory problems when they have switched their pets to a
bedding other than pine or cedar shavings.
For the full article see
http://www.ratfanclub.org/litters.html
3) Here are some
links to sites with accurate information on rats
Regards,
There were more negative
comments but I published them in my regular Q&A pages.
More below.
LA
Laura McConnell, July 22, 2008
I've read your rat care sheet and your patronizingly amused replies to attempts to correct your misinformation. While I am certain it is a waste of time to try to convince you to educate yourself and remove your misinformation that may be causing well intentioned rat lovers to unknowingly cause harm to beloved pets, I simply cannot refrain from trying to persuade you to reconsider your decision to ignore all attempts to properly educate you on rat care. Your assertion that rats are the only animals that you can pick up by the tail and still expect them to treat you with affection frankly sickened me. Yes, rats, like dogs and other pets can withstand many forms of abuse and still express love and devotion to their humans. That doesn't mean the rats enjoy the treatment or that it is not harmful. I have been involved in animal rescue for many years, and I've had the displeasure of caring for rats who have been mishandled. I currently have two rats in my care who have been seriously injured by their former owners picking them up by their tails. One had to have his tail removed due to the degloving (the skin removal from the tail which exposes the tail bones and nerves and allows for bacteria to cause life threatening infections) and the other had his tail broken and since rats are rarely given proper vet care, the break healed badly and caused the rat such pain that I had to have his tail partially amputated as well. Rats are scavengers and roamers, therefore a ten gallon aquarium will never provide them with the proper enrichment needed to ensure their happiness. Rats need to be able to climb, run, and otherwise exercise. They also need hidey houses and love to lounge in hammocks, which cannot be provided for them in the small confines of an aquarium. Furthermore, the ammonia from rat urine builds up quickly and aquariums don't provide the ventilation needed to prevent respiratory issues in rats, who as you have mentioned, have delicate respiratory systems. Proper rat nutrition is extremely important to the health and longevity of pet rats. Mixes made for hamsters or gerbils simply don't provide rats with all of their nutrient needs and are loaded with more protein than is healthy for rats. I've taken in rats who have had scabby skin and extreme hair loss from the excess protein from the seed mixes. After only a few weeks of proper diet, which includes lab blocks (though some brands of lab blocks are no better than seed mixes) and access to fresh foods including dark leafy greens and other veggies, fruits, whole grains and animal proteins in proper amounts those same rats no longer have itchy skin that causes them to scratch themselves to bits and hair began to regrow. Your assertion that rat owners who make their own rat food mixes that simply can't be as good as what is available commercially is laughable. Most commercial rat diets are the equivalent of humans eating all their meals from fast food restaurants. Rat owners who make their own diets have often done extensive research to make certain that they are meeting all the nutrient needs of their beloved pets. There are plenty of resources for proper education available on the internet. The American Fancy Rat and Mouse Association has a website with oodles of information on the proper care and breeding of pet rats. Another great resource is the Rat Fan Club which is run by Debbie Ducommun, an internationally recognized rat expert. Please, for the sake of ratties every where, either educate yourself and update your care sheets, or provide links to the websites run by rat experts. Your misinformation borders on neglect and abuse and I doubt that you are intentionally miseducating people Thank you for taking the time to read my e-mail. Links to the sites I've mentioned are included below. Respectfully, www.afrma.org www.ratfanclub.org A: I've added your requested links. LA
Heather Quintner, Reading, PA, July 23, 2008
My god...does anyone there know anything about rats? I read your
"care information" and it's just about ALL wrong!
1. You say you can pick them up by their tails. Do you
realize that if you do that, you stand a very good chance of
sloughing the skin off of it?
2. Not ALL rats are friendly. The ones that have been
mishandled, mistreated, or ignored can be mean, but only because
of the way some humans treat them.
3. You have a photo of a mother rat with a new litter (still
no fur) and one from her "prior litter" next to her that only looks
to be a few weeks old. They can get pregnant the DAY they give
birth, and they should NOT have that many litters. It is very
unhealthy for the mothers. If you are breeding this way, you are
being abusive and cruel to them.
4. Do you REALLY not know why they are called pinkies or was
that a joke? I'm inclined to believe that you don't know.
5. You recommend gerbil or hamster food for rats. Those are
TERRIBLE for rats to eat. They are full of fat and things that rats
do not even eat.
6. A rat's teeth will NOT outgrow their mouth if they have
nothing to gnaw. They continuely grind their teeth to prevent just
this from happening.
7. Aquariums are awful homes for rats! There is no
ventilation, and besides, it looks like you have a dozen rats in one
tank! That is absurd!!!
8. Corn cob is rough on a little rat's feet, they have soft
pads and need soft bedding.
My rat cage has 2....yes....only 2 boys in it. This cage is rated
for 3 rats. It is 24" long, 11" deep, and 36" high with 2 full
levels and 2 half levels. There are plenty of toys, treats, GOOD
food, places to hide, and places to sleep. Rats need room.
Please, for the sake of the people reading your site and taking its
advice, you really need to do more research. People look to you as
a guide, please stop misinforming them.
HQA: Very nice housing for a $3 pet. LA
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